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Post by draftsman on Feb 21, 2014 18:53:23 GMT -8
Blue from Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal/FireRed/LeafGreen/HeartGold/SoulSilver/Black 2/White 2/Sick of this yet? I don't get why people hate this guy. Because he made the smart move and chose the Pokemon with a type advantage over yours? Because he's faster than you? Because he says "Smell ya later!"? Let's not forget, Oak prefers Red, a kid he pretty much just met, over his own grandson Blue, not to mention Blue is one of the few people in the Pokemon series to have a DEAD POKEMON. The whole Raticate thing? THERE'S NO WAY TO DISPROVE IT. There's no way to prove it either, and you're making a game theory here: trying to apply real life logic t a world that brutally disproves it, specially in how relationships work. A normal mother doesn't encourage a 10 years old to go out his house to catch bugs(that in reality could kill him) and explore to be the very best. In real life we would find a lot of dead, raped or slave kids if parents did this kind of crap. There's no way to say a Pokemon dies in this very early game in the series because it just doesn't touch the theme of death at all like other games tried later. You can friggin poison a Pokemon, and it will be fine no matter what(sure, it faints, but that's it. You can wait fucking days before visit the Pokemon Center and your Pokemon will still be fine) The reason why he is hated is because he's annoying, regardless if that makes him credible. Annoying is annoying, that easy.
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Post by Not The Water Waka on Feb 21, 2014 19:55:56 GMT -8
Blue from Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal/FireRed/LeafGreen/HeartGold/SoulSilver/Black 2/White 2/Sick of this yet? I don't get why people hate this guy. Because he made the smart move and chose the Pokemon with a type advantage over yours? Because he's faster than you? Because he says "Smell ya later!"? Let's not forget, Oak prefers Red, a kid he pretty much just met, over his own grandson Blue, not to mention Blue is one of the few people in the Pokemon series to have a DEAD POKEMON. The whole Raticate thing? THERE'S NO WAY TO DISPROVE IT. Have you ever considering Blue stopped using Raticate because, oh I dunno, he realized it sucks, and decided to replace it with something good, like Arcanine [Exeggute if you started with Bulbasaur]? Sounds like something he would do, knowing the way he thinks, given by his dialogue.
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Post by chrossrank on Feb 28, 2014 19:19:21 GMT -8
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Porky
OK HEAR ME OUT!!!! First i will say that i HATED porky on earthbound!He was so annoying and evil that it wasn't even funny! In Mother 3 however...
Yes, you can say he was even WORSE in this game,he ruined Lucas life,killed innocent people, and did it all just for fun.So what's the difference between him in Earthbound and in Mother 3? Well,in Earthbound he looked like an idiot,in Mother 3 he had a robotic mounstrous appearence,in Earthbound he was a bratty kid,in Mother 3 he isn't human anymore...
Time travel changed Porky,he was still a inmature prick inside,but he was also 100000 years old (sorry if its not the exact number) he was so powerful,and had nothing to lose,that he became a monster,but not a type of monster a normal human can become,a REAL heartless monster.That,and the threath he is in the game,make him actually a good villain in my opinion..
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Or maybe im just crazy
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Post by pokepikoo on Feb 28, 2014 19:22:59 GMT -8
Silver. Yeah, the boss fight was crap, but otherwise he was a cool character.
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Post by Akuma Kristian on Mar 1, 2014 10:21:11 GMT -8
Blue from Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal/FireRed/LeafGreen/HeartGold/SoulSilver/Black 2/White 2/Sick of this yet? I don't get why people hate this guy. Because he made the smart move and chose the Pokemon with a type advantage over yours? Because he's faster than you? Because he says "Smell ya later!"? Let's not forget, Oak prefers Red, a kid he pretty much just met, over his own grandson Blue, not to mention Blue is one of the few people in the Pokemon series to have a DEAD POKEMON. The whole Raticate thing? THERE'S NO WAY TO DISPROVE IT. There's no way to prove it either, and you're making a game theory here: trying to apply real life logic t a world that brutally disproves it, specially in how relationships work. A normal mother doesn't encourage a 10 years old to go out his house to catch bugs(that in reality could kill him) and explore to be the very best. In real life we would find a lot of dead, raped or slave kids if parents did this kind of crap. There's no way to say a Pokemon dies in this very early game in the series because it just doesn't touch the theme of death at all like other games tried later. You can friggin poison a Pokemon, and it will be fine no matter what(sure, it faints, but that's it. You can wait fucking days before visit the Pokemon Center and your Pokemon will still be fine) The reason why he is hated is because he's annoying, regardless if that makes him credible. Annoying is annoying, that easy. I agree with you on this but you're kind of forgetting that the original games had what was essentially a Pokémon graveyard. It did touch upon the theme of death, just not much.
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Post by draftsman on Mar 1, 2014 11:56:52 GMT -8
........ Porky OK HEAR ME OUT!!!! First i will say that i HATED porky on earthbound!He was so annoying and evil that it wasn't even funny! In Mother 3 however... Yes, you can say he was even WORSE in this game,he ruined Lucas life,killed innocent people, and did it all just for fun.So what's the difference between him in Earthbound and in Mother 3? Well,in Earthbound he looked like an idiot,in Mother 3 he had a robotic mounstrous appearence,in Earthbound he was a bratty kid,in Mother 3 he isn't human anymore... Time travel changed Porky,he was still a inmature prick inside,but he was also 100000 years old (sorry if its not the exact number) he was so powerful,and had nothing to lose,that he became a monster,but not a type of monster a normal human can become,a REAL heartless monster.That,and the threath he is in the game,make him actually a good villain in my opinion.. ... Or maybe im just crazy I think you're crazy. None of that makes him pitiful or relatable. It just emphasizes he's a son of a bitch. For putting himself in such situations and fucking people over. Plus, he's doing a good job as a villain if he's hated for it.
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Post by higemaru on Mar 1, 2014 12:07:51 GMT -8
........ Porky OK HEAR ME OUT!!!! First i will say that i HATED porky on earthbound!He was so annoying and evil that it wasn't even funny! In Mother 3 however... Yes, you can say he was even WORSE in this game,he ruined Lucas life,killed innocent people, and did it all just for fun.So what's the difference between him in Earthbound and in Mother 3? Well,in Earthbound he looked like an idiot,in Mother 3 he had a robotic mounstrous appearence,in Earthbound he was a bratty kid,in Mother 3 he isn't human anymore... Time travel changed Porky,he was still a inmature prick inside,but he was also 100000 years old (sorry if its not the exact number) he was so powerful,and had nothing to lose,that he became a monster,but not a type of monster a normal human can become,a REAL heartless monster.That,and the threath he is in the game,make him actually a good villain in my opinion.. ... Or maybe im just crazy I think you're crazy. None of that makes him pitiful or relatable. It just emphasizes he's a son of a bitch. For putting himself in such situations and fucking people over. Plus, he's doing a good job as a villain if he's hated for it. I've always thought that Porky was a sort of tragic villain. His parents were abusive, Ness shunned him (Magicant more or less confirms this) and all he ever wanted was a friend. Giygas exploits this and warps Porky into the monster that we all know today. This doesn't excuse what he did but even though it looks like Porky's does what he does for fun, it's pretty clear that he's far deeper than your typical "I'm evil just because" villain. Both EB and Mother 3 heavily imply that Porky is the way he is because he had no friends. And in Earthbound, it's shown that Ness was a pretty massive dick to Porky when they were young. Porky is far from blameless but Porky's whole mental state is the result of being severely fucked over by everyone he thought he could trust.
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Post by Malcolm Belmont on Mar 1, 2014 12:17:59 GMT -8
I can't say anything because i have never played Mother 3..but i do see both sides of the story. However from the footage i still think he is scum despite is backstory..i hate the main villain of AAI2 despite the fact he has a tragic backstory
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Post by vesperiax on Mar 1, 2014 13:09:09 GMT -8
Apollo Justice, I personally prefer him over Phoenix because he honestly looks more like a rookie in my eyes.
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Post by Malcolm Belmont on Mar 1, 2014 13:10:54 GMT -8
Apollo Justice, I personally prefer him over Phoenix because he honestly looks more like a rookie in my eyes. While i do prefer Pheonix..i still really like Apollo. Both are really good charcters
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Post by TXA on Mar 1, 2014 13:12:41 GMT -8
Silver.
That is, Silver from Pokemon. Not Silver the Hedgehog.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 13:35:16 GMT -8
Big the cat.
I know folks usually complain about big because of the fishing, but truth be told... I actually thought the fishing was kinda fun(Yeah, I said it.) Not to mention, big's story is rather short anyways(Even shorter if you skip cut scenes)so why so many gripes?
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Post by TXA on Mar 1, 2014 13:52:31 GMT -8
Big the cat. I know folks usually complain about big because of the fishing, but truth be told... I actually thought the fishing was kinda fun(Yeah, I said it.) Not to mention, big's story is rather short anyways(Even shorter if you skip cut scenes)so why so many gripes? Interestingly enough, Big's story is actually one of my favorites in Sonic Adventure.
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Post by X17Clones on Mar 1, 2014 13:56:24 GMT -8
Silver. That is, Silver from Pokemon. Not Silver the Hedgehog. Wait people hate Silver?
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Post by TXA on Mar 1, 2014 14:07:43 GMT -8
Silver. That is, Silver from Pokemon. Not Silver the Hedgehog. Wait people hate Silver? Everyone I know hates Silver.
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