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Post by Malcolm Belmont on Mar 16, 2014 12:04:35 GMT -8
Maaaybbbeee...Super Mario Bros..that gamne revolutionized all of gaming Maybe so, but it's abysmal by today's standards. I dissagre..it still holds up today pretty well..comapred with Atari Games..
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Post by higemaru on Mar 16, 2014 12:19:51 GMT -8
Maaaybbbeee...Super Mario Bros..that gamne revolutionized all of gaming Maybe so, but it's abysmal by today's standards. Good one. Oh wait, you were serious? Super Mario Bros. has aged incredibly well, especially when you consider exactly what it was. Super Mario Bros. was one of the first platformers with an end goal. It was also a game that specifically designed for people who had never played a video game in their lives. The first level is impeccably designed, it teaches the player effortlessly. The second level provides a drastic change in setting. The 3rd level takes you from the underground to the sky where you jump around fantastical mushrooms and the 4th level is a castle. From here on out, you'd think the levels would just repeat. But no! They're were 7 more worlds to tackle. In 1985, that's astounding. And considering what system the game is on, it's surprisingly fair. It does not feel like a game that was designed to steal quarters. It honestly feels like the game designers were trying to actually challenge the player instead of trying to extort money out of them. In addition, the physics are really good too. They aren't too rough, they aren't too slippery. Compare it to something like Kid Icarus where Pit takes an extra step or Ghosts N' Goblins where Arthur moves like a character in a G&W game. For a 2D platformer from 1985, it's an amazing that it's even playable nowadays. Compare it to most old platformers. Even the original Mega Man stumbles a bit and the 2D Sonics are pretty eh. If you want to see how Nintendo could have screwed up Super Mario Bros, play Lost Levels. That game is just difficult for the sake of being difficult. Super Mario Bros is one of the very few objectively good games out there because it accomplishes every single thing it sets out to do and it's still worth playing today. It's not Rayman Origins but it literally could not be Rayman Origins.
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Post by TXA on Mar 16, 2014 12:27:30 GMT -8
To each their own.
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Post by Avaril on Mar 16, 2014 12:28:16 GMT -8
I'm definitely not a fan of calling something "the Citizen Kane of gaming", especially considering how much of an obsession AAA-developers have for Hollywood. Regardless of that, It would have to be a game that set a significant standard for gaming in general. I'm having a hard time thinking of one. Maybe you could go with 1975's dnd, which introduced the boss mechanic, but that's only one tiny feature. If you broadened it a bit to include all games (i.e. pen & paper 'n shit too), you could say Dungeons & Dragons for coming up with the RPG-style mechanics that appear in quite a lot of games these days (not just actual RPGs), but even that is a bit of a stretch.
In short, no. I don't think there is a Citizen Kane of gaming.
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Post by Malcolm Belmont on Mar 16, 2014 12:31:15 GMT -8
I love how we all have different opinions on the subject. That is why i created this threat in the first place because it would make for good discussion..While i still beleive SMB and MGS1 are the Citizin Kanes of Gaming i still can understand you guys opinions
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Post by Szadek on Mar 16, 2014 14:01:06 GMT -8
Has anyone here even watched Citizen Kane?
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Post by TrueDarkAce on Mar 16, 2014 14:05:13 GMT -8
We know it's not David Cage games
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Post by SteaminFeline56 on Mar 16, 2014 14:34:00 GMT -8
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Post by Malcolm Belmont on Mar 16, 2014 23:33:30 GMT -8
We know it's not David Cage games But they are art...because Polygons..
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Post by HotterdanArul on Mar 17, 2014 14:15:34 GMT -8
MGS fits it surprisingly well: it was seen to be mainly the work of one person, it is overly fondly remembered but its influence is undeniable. Calling something the Citizen Kane of gaming goes far beyond the most influential game. I don't think any game truly fits the definition but I think that MGS is a good shout, Super Mario Bros is a good shout. I find the question pretty pointless if I am to be honest though.
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Post by clownboss on Mar 18, 2014 2:31:18 GMT -8
Since our premise has already gone to hell, let's kick it up a notch: What's the Citizen Kane of music?
I'm not too familiar with classical music all that much but if I had to pinpoint one thing, uhhh, Bach's Air on a G String maybe?
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Post by Avaril on Mar 18, 2014 2:46:44 GMT -8
Since our premise has already gone to hell, let's kick it up a notch: What's the Citizen Kane of music? I'm not too familiar with classical music all that much but if I had to pinpoint one thing, uhhh, Bach's Air on a G String maybe? The Epitaph of Seikilos, hands down.
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Post by clownboss on Mar 18, 2014 2:54:28 GMT -8
Since our premise has already gone to hell, let's kick it up a notch: What's the Citizen Kane of music? I'm not too familiar with classical music all that much but if I had to pinpoint one thing, uhhh, Bach's Air on a G String maybe? The Epitaph of Seikilos, hands down. Air on a G String is a thousand times more moving though, since it uses chord progressions and harmony. It soothes the heart and soul and is incredibly cathartic and sounds so liberating and everything. I know music is subjective and all, but it's a fact that people are likely to have a bigger emotional response to baroque works of music like Toccata and Fugue, Air, or Vivaldi's Four Seasons than anything made before it. Everything latter composers and even rock bands like The Beatles tried to do is try to recreate that feeling, that emotion.
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Post by Avaril on Mar 18, 2014 3:31:46 GMT -8
The Epitaph of Seikilos, hands down. Air on a G String is a thousand times more moving though, since it uses chord progressions and harmony. It soothes the heart and soul and is incredibly cathartic and sounds so liberating and everything. I know music is subjective and all, but it's a fact that people are likely to have a bigger emotional response to baroque works of music like Toccata and Fugue, Air, or Vivaldi's Four Seasons than anything made before it. Everything latter composers and even rock bands like The Beatles tried to do is try to recreate that feeling, that emotion. Yeah, I meant that half-jokingly. It is an important piece in the history of music and it has a solid melody, but Air on a G String does its thing quite a bit better. Also, now I'm wondering what sound an actual G-string would produce. Thanks for that.
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Post by Derpy Hooves on Mar 18, 2014 7:01:13 GMT -8
Hollaback Girl by Gwen Stefani. This song arrived on the scene in 2005 and was made by a master of her craft the grand duchess Gwen Stefani the III.
WARNING DON'T WATCH IF YOU ARE NOT A FAN OF ART PROG METAL SHOWTUNE R&B WITH A BIT OF JAZZ MUSIC!
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